I thought Savard sounded familiar.Read this thread.More disappointment I'm afraid Sorry !
http://www.hostboard.com/forums/alte...ml#post1773627
I thought Savard sounded familiar.Read this thread.More disappointment I'm afraid Sorry !
http://www.hostboard.com/forums/alte...ml#post1773627
I wonder if Todd would consider removing these Savard threads? It seems were one of the few places Google returns with the Savard name so we're actually attracting more people asking about the pieces of junk.
Audio_by_Goodwill
Michigan, USA
To the OP:
Very sorry to hear about your loss.
Alas, most of the postings various online seem to be ca early 2007 and seemingly by low-number posters, This could lead one to believe that one person was shilling in an effort to drum up interest in a pair they were selling.
In any case, there seem to be several threads on the audiokarma.org site, so I suggest you research there. 'Savard' is rather unique, so you will not have trouble locating the posts, investigating and replying as needed.
Good luck.
OG: Love the brutal honesty!
The info I posted was readily available in the "other" Savard thread.Originally Posted by gearfreak
I wish I could say they are one step above junk....as a 16 year old in high school I could have done a better design.
The Heppner is a diffraction horn. It should be mounted with the long dimension vertical. Note Altec did this in the unit that employs the same horn.
I would also argue against the piezos in the first place. But if you are gonna use them at least have the sense to stack them vertically.
Horrible design. Somebody read what were decent drivers and threw them in a box. Probably all bought due to reviews at McGee Radio.
It simply was a money making operation. Nothing else. Except maybe an ego exercise..."Wow man, I'm a speaker designer and I didn't even go to college"
Last is the motivation for the post. To sell not to keep. This board is a resource for hobbyists, not for sellers to extract top dollar.
Sorry if you think I am rude, I feel it was extremely rude to ask people to work for free in order to make more money. As happens all too often here. And in this case about off topic speakers.
Suggestion ...all posts asking for valuation be deleted immediately if made day of registration.
Your neighbors called. They like your music.
I like the direction of the suggestion.
...or restrict such nascent valuation threads to e.g. the classifieds section (some new subsection thereof) as we see in place elsewhere. One-stop, one-thread shopping for the discussion, and then 'for sale' post.
Idea being that we may still want to assist folks in valuation/knowing what they have, as it promotes them to sell rather than stuff them under the proverbial mattress. Just without the clutter/distraction in the main forum.
(not speaking to the on/off topic part per se)
That said, there would be some consideration of the cost of the traffic, sans donations... but perhaps worth to subsidize it by directing the traffic here and making it easier for folks to find what they want to buy.
Agreed with all that.
But we had one fellow who wanted valuation on lightweight diaphragms then immediately went to eBay without offering them here. Those things leave a lingering resentment.
I second deleting the Savard threads completely, so far they have attracted more garbage than anything else.
Your neighbors called. They like your music.
the 'other Savard thread' was made as a light hearted entertaiment piece.
and Yet -
documenting history is not a bad thing.
may prove helpful to someone.
i worked at McGee Radio.
Horrible design. Somebody read what were decent drivers and threw them in a box. Probably all bought due to reviews at McGee Radio.
we did not 'review speakers'.
and yes, some things taken out of context,
like the 'white cones, for better bass',
caused mirth among my friends,
we knew that ad copy,
in a (low cost) news print catalog,
were not white papers.
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also -
i felt that we were under-staffed,
and the four owners took too much work upon themselves.
still -
where else could a person buy these things at what was a relatively low price?
Tom, I bought a lot from McGee.
You took what I said entirely the wrong way and out of context.
I said nothing bad about McGee. At the time they were a wonderful vendor....when I couldn't put together a big enough order to deal with a manufacturer, they were always there and good service.:2thumbsup:
What I SAID was the Savards are horrible.
Badly put together speakers, drivers positioned incorrectly, and the builders just bought what was recommended at the vendor. Most likely McGee, they dealt with a lot of small volume builders. I sincerely doubt the Savard people had any ability to do any driver testing, just likely slapped them together, smoked a joint, and said, "sounds great man!".
A good dealer can have a bad customer. Ask anybody who has worked in retail.
Addendum: For the benefit of the whippersnappers here...a link to McGee's 1969 catalog.
http://reel2reeltexas.com/cat69McGee.html
Your neighbors called. They like your music.
I know my reply is late but my experience is a bit different from those commenting below. I grew up in Baton Rouge where the founder, Bill Savard, started his operation. Mine were the 12th pair he made and back then they were hand made and took him almost 3 months to complete. So I guess he didn't simply throw garbage components together as suggested in this thread. I ordered them in November of 1973 and they were ready in Febuary of 1974. They were the smallest model in a line of 4 and I was so proud of them and happy with the sound. Today when I listen to them they still cook! Yes I still have them, hooked up to a Carver system, and the salesman who sold me the Carver quit trying to sell me a $4,500 pair of B&W since he thought the Savards sounded better. I would never think of selling them and if I upgrade my system again I'll simply hook the Savards up to them and continue to enjoy the sound.
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